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Sunday, July 31, 2011

How Ya Gonna Keep 'Em Helping Those on the Farm After They've Seen Paree?

I observed a discussion among a bunch of Billy Bragg / Leon Rosselson fans, mainly from the British Isles (read: European liberals) on youtube today.  The results were interesting to say the least, because actual knowledge, thought and feeling about politics were involved (like a conversation among Poli Sci graduate students on a college campus), in contrast to the average American conversation about social issues.  Here is one example: 


SOCIALISM is the only way this planet is going to survive humanity.  Otherwise it will destroy us - there is a finite amount for us to consume and if capitalism keeps driving consumption on, the end is nigh a lot sooner than it should be.


The argument was another opinion:


False; anarchism is another way, but I wouldn't spit at a free socialist state, it's definitely better than what we've got...


And another voice piped up with:



The state of nature is brutish and cruel. People are not nice enough for an  anarchic paradise.


This was my response (the ending to which was limited by the length allowed by youtube):



The problem with "isms" is they are all beliefs and all must believe in them for them to work. Even "socialism" is doomed to fail because it presupposes common belief in the survival of the entire society, not just the fittest or the fattest. The will to dominion has existed since the first human realized our brains and hearts give us an edge over brute animals. It's been subjugate/annihilate ever since as far as the strongest or the richest are concerned.

(But don't forget, I spoke as a thinking, feeling AMERICAN - and I know how and why Columbus went for the gold; just 2 pages of Howard Zinn's PEOPLE'S HISTORY will tell you that.  In fact, I'm wondering which natives (from the handful left) should rename this country.  I'm tired of calling it after Italian Amerigo Vespucci.  Tired and disgusted.)

But another voice said this:


If we made an effort to teach people that they are human, and should therefore act as caring adults -- don't harm others, be kind, and help others in need -- we'd be alright.  Of course, we'd also need to create a way of life that promoted those things, instead of promoting the dick-sucking of the rich for "crumbs" of their monetary "feast".  If such a way of life could be promulgated, all our lives would be less brutish and cruel.  I don't know about you, but I've never had an honest thought to inflict brutish or cruel behavior on anyone, and I'm a human like everyone else.


Now, I personally believe wholeheartedly in what the last guy said, but the question is, how do we get that to happen when those in power like their power and exercise it absolutely with guns and money?  How you gonna keep 'em helping those on the farm after they've seen Paree?


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